Twisted Tuesday – Whose in Charge Here?

Biblical Beginnings

Today’s twisted scripture is Luke 12:4-5.

There are many that would love to twist Luke 12 to fit the bizarre view of Satan and his demons torturing non believers in hell. There are others who claim, like Joyce Meyers, that Jesus was tortured in hell by Satan and his cohorts. But it’s clear and obvious, in the text that Jesus is not referring to Satan, He’s talking about God the Father.


Why do people want to twist this scripture? Because it’s uncomfortable to tell sinners that God is sovereign. Many want their Christianity without having to seperate from the world. But friendship with the world is enmity with God. Do we so desire the approval of man that we’re willing to twist Gods Word to earn it? Please, friends, do not hide the truth from sinners. Don’t give them the impression that they need to be saved from Satan. Christ…

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  1. Sorry Cristina, I commented on Biblical Beginnings- lnhereford’s Blog by mistake thinking I was on yours, it was late so I didn’t give much detail but I will now.

    lnhereford mentioned in her Message about Spurgeon but he also got it wrong, he said that Jesus was an Angel which Scripture refutes. Yes many have got it wrong over the years because they Trust in their own or in others fleshy Understanding instead of asking for God’s Wisdom and Empowering which none of us were Born with as confirmed on the link below with Scripture.

    Proverbs 4:7 Wisdom is the Principal thing; therefore get Wisdom and with all thy getting get Understanding.

    Blog Post – http://alifeofhopeandjoy.wordpress.com/2011/11/16/the-gaining-of-wisdom/

    But yes we will reap the evil we sow this is God’s Discipline, just as the Prodigal Son did until he repented but this is our choice not God’s, it’s not His will anyone perishes, He even rescues us from premature death and is with us through whatever Satan and life brings.

    Isaiah 43:1-3….. Fear not for I have redeemed thee I have called thee by thy Name thou art Mine. When thou passest through the waters I will be with thee and through the rivers they shall not overflow thee, when thou walkest through the fire thou shalt not be burned neither shall the flame kindle upon thee. For I am the LORD thy God, The Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour….. (KJV)

    Jeremiah 29 :11-12 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the LORD, thoughts of Peace and not of evil to give you an expected end.

    Satan control’s this earth and he has the right because of the fall to put us all to the test which Job did not know until later when God explained to him this reality and Job apologized for his believing it was God who caused the evil that happened to him and his family.

    Satan puts us all to the test as he did with Jesus, Paul, Peter, Judas etc and he also has the power to throw those who are dead spiritually into Hell waiting judgement, their final Eternal destination will be the Lake of Fire.

    1John 5:19 We know that we are of God and that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.

    God molds and shapes us by giving us opportunities to choose to walk in The Fruit of The Spirit with His empowering, not by inflicting pain on us.

    Lamentations 3: 33 For God doth not afflict willingly nor grieve the Children of Men.

    The Scriptures also confirm that God is Love and can do no evil and that all good things come from Him not bad, all He Created He told us was very good, is Hell? When we are His Redeemed Children we do not have to fear being thrown into Hell, understanding God’s good will for us comes from The Holy Spirit who speaks God’s Truth not Man’s,(1Corinthians2:9-16) we have one Spiritual Teacher Jesus Christ (Matthew23:8-10) but yes we are to share His Truth and warn others who are walking in darkness but not by our own agenda and with Love and for Love.

    1John 2:26-28 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of Him abideth in you and ye need not that any Man teach you but as the same anointing Teacheth you of all things and is Truth and is no lie and even as it hath Taught you ye shall abide in Him.

    Christian Love and God’s Blessings – Anne.

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    1. Cristina says:

      Hi Anne , how are you?
      Thank you for commenting I enjoyed reading your Wisdom post. Thanks for the link.
      I was surprised about your comment on Spurgeon . When you have some spare time I would be interested to know about his belief that Jesus was an angel.
      God is good, God is love. Without the Lord I would not know how to live. Sometimes is hard for me to conprehend His love for me.
      Anne, will you share with me how you understand that God allowed Satan to test Job? and Peter?
      I am asking you because I see you as a strong woman in the Lord unwavering in your faith. I admire that in you.
      Many blessings Anne 🥀

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  2. Cristina says:

    “Comprehend “☺

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  3. So good to see someone else make a spelling mistake for a change Cristina, with my being Dyslectic I make Heaps and get words wrong too, such as I have mental fatatude instead of fatigue and he was decaffeinated instead of decapitated, the worst was when I said Jesus died for the genitals not just the Jews, yes for sure I’m a cracked vessel but God’s the Super Glue.

    Thank you for your kind, uplifting words Cristina but you can be sure there was a time when I was very confused (see link below) this was after being an Atheist for almost 30 years because of being deceived that I came from an Ape and told that Jesus and the Bible was just made up. I was later a Member of a Church and seeking to follow Jesus but was very upset because I didn’t know what God’s Truth was for sure and so had doubts.There was so much conflicting information in books and on the Internet and some copied the error made by others so it was believed as being the Truth even though it contradicted Scripture when read in Context but I do know God’s Truth now although I’m still learning but what Jesus has shown me with the Confirmation of Scripture and in Creation, I now have no doubts about.

    My Confusion – http://freedomborn.wordpress.com/2014/06/16/my-battle-with-confusion/

    Satan has the right to tempt us all to do evil because of the fall, that is why God did not stop Satan when he wanted to put Job to the test or Peter and of course many others but as we know Jesus prayed for Peter and he repented about his denial of not knowing Him 3 times to save himself from being harmed.

    James 1:12-14 Blessed is the man that endureth Temptation for when he is Tried he shall receive the Crown of Life which the Lord hath Promised to them that Love Him. Let no Man say when he is Tempted I am Tempted of God for God cannot be Tempted with evil neither Tempteth He any Man But every Man is Tempted when he is drawn away of his own lust and enticed.

    As we also know Cristina Satan is in control of the World and seeks to cause us to fall away meaning to reject Jesus, which is the unforgivable Sin, it’s calling the Holy Spirit a liar which is Blaspheming Him but when we come close to God by walking as Jesus did in Righteousness, Satan flees, evil and goodness cannot co -exist that is why we are to put our Carnal flesh to death which causes us to Sin by The Spirit and Aim to be Perfected in Love and we can do this because Jesus has set us free from the Slavery of Sin.

    I will look up the exact words of Surgeon for you Cristina about Jesus being an Angel and the Scripture that confirms why he was in error, although you may already know it, I have them on file somewhere, I’m still sorting through endless boxes big and small since I moved into my new home.

    But I do have now the full plan of Salvation confirmed with Scripture if you would like to read it Cristina, yes we are to Work out our Salvation but not meaning Work for it, God knows those who are His even before we are Conceived by His foreknowledge of our Heart Repentance showing our Faith in Jesus as our Lord and Saviour and not one of us will be lost Eternally.

    Praying God’s wonderful Blessings for you – Anne.

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  4. Cristina says:

    I had to laugh when I was reading your first paragraph Anne😊. I like you am a bit dyslexic ( or is it old age LOL with me) I get my numbers jumbled up. 34 becomes 43, 98 – 89 and so on. Problem is that I work for a bank. So when we are out in our balancing at the end of the day my dyslexia is always to blame 😁.
    Thank you Anne for taking the time to expand on my questions. I enjoy discussing and sharing God’s Word but always in a spirit of love and humility as children of God.
    Thank you for the link. I understand the confusion having been there myself. But as God’s Word says the Holy Spirit will always lead us into all truth. This has been true about me, I have gone from deception to deception to where I am now. I look back and I can only fall on my knees and thank our God for His love and care. Jesus is my all in all.
    Do not go into any trouble Anne about Spurgeon. I know you are busy specially after moving into your new house. Is just that your comment took me by surprise. I have listened to some of his preaching and teaching but I never heard him say that Jesus was an angel. The JW’S teach that Jesus was the Archangel Michael, no?…but I had no idea about Spurgeon He has so many powerful messages about Christ.
    Thank you Anne may the Lord continue to bless you and protect you.
    In Christ
    Cristina🥀

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    1. I was surprised about Spurgeon’s error too Cristina, I thought there had been a mistake until I checked it out for myself, anyway he did indeed Love The Lord with all his Heart as shown by his passion for Him and his Ministry to others.

      As we know Cristina God can use anything for good and He used my being Dyslectic to drew me to Jesus as a Child and so Jesus became my Best Friend but that was before I was deceived that I evolved from an Ape. I will leave the link for you below, I may share this Post about my Childhood again in the near future, I want to use it to show the reality that God does not deliberately plan evil for us as some claim even though they sugarcoat it saying it’s for our good.

      Childhood – https://freedomborn.wordpress.com/2011/09/27/the-early-years-a-little-lost-girl/

      Christian Love Cristina Always – Anne.

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      1. Cristina says:

        What a wonderdul and powerful testimony of God’s love and care. Thank you for sharing Anne.
        Blessings

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  5. Cristina says:

    Hi Anne,

    “Sherry He Hath Said” posted this a few hours ago, would you like to read it when you have time and share your thoughts with me😊

    https://hehathsaid.wordpress.com/2017/10/17/trust-the-incarnate-god/

    Blessings Anne

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    1. Hi Cristina, the statements below were made by Charles Spurgeon and their in his messages on the Links below.

      It’s late and I’m off to bed, let’s continue tomorrow after you have had time to read them.

      “The Blood of the Lamb, The Conquering Weapon” (Sept. 9, 1888):http://www.spurgeongems.org/vols34-36/chs2043.pdf

      “By faith we rise into the conquering place this day. In the heavenlies we triumph, as also in every place. We rejoice in our Lord Jesus Christ, the Michael of the angels, the Redeemer of men. For by Him we see Satan cast out and all the powers of evil hurled from their places of power and eminence.”

      From “Our Lord’s Transcendent Greatness” (Dec. 2, 1866):http://www.spurgeongems.org/vols58-60/chs3382.pdf

      You remember how our Lord, who is the true Michael, the only great Archangel, said at the beginning of the preaching of the Gospel, “I beheld Satan as lightning falling from Heaven.”

      From “The Angelic Life” (Nov. 22, 1868):http://www.spurgeongems.org/vols13-15/chs842.pdf

      “We read that Michael and his Angels fought against the dragon and his Angels, and the dragon was cast down. The fight is going on every day. Michael is the Lord Jesus, the only Archangel.”

      Jesus is not an Angel as confirmed by God in the Scripture below…..

      Hebrews1:1-14 God who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the Prophets hath in these last days spoken unto us by His Son whom He hath appointed Heir of all things by whom also He made the Worlds. Who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His Person and upholding all things by the word of His power when He had by Himself purged our Sins sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on High. Being made so much better than the Angels as He hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent Name than they. For unto which of the Angels said He at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to Him a Father, and He shall be to me a Son? And again, when He bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, He saith, And let all the Angels of God worship Him. And of the Angels He saith, Who maketh His Angels spirits and His ministers a flame of fire. But unto the Son He saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a Sceptre of Righteousness is the Sceptre of thy Kingdom. Thou hast Loved Righteousness, and hated iniquity therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth and the Heavens are the works of thine hands They shall perish but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up and they shall be changed but thou art the same and thy years shall not fail. But to which of the Angels said He at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make Thine enemies thy footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be Heirs of Salvation?(KJV)

      Blessings – Anne.

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      1. Cristina says:

        Hi Anne , this is very sad. I wonder if Spurgeon meant it the way it sounds?
        Thank you Anne for sending all the links.
        May Our Lord bless you abundantly always
        Cristina 🥀

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  6. You will need to Moderate my last Comment Cristina because of the included links in it, I’ll be in touch tomorrow.

    Anne.

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